March 15, 1997 F****, V., AK, Ark, Laura 
Q: Hello. 
A: Hello. 
Q: And what name shall we use this evening? 
A: Torra. 
Q: And where do you transmit from? 
A: Cassiopaea. 
Q: (L) In the natural state, we know that a photon can have an 
interaction which causes it to split into positron and an electron. In 
the natural state, do electrons come from photons? 
A: No. 
Q: Okay. In the natural state, where do electrons come from? 
A: Aether boundary with material continuum. 
Q: Where does the proton come from? 
A: 7th density. 
Q: So, a proton comes from seventh density, but the electron does 
not. 
A: Not mutually exclusive. 
Q: In a substance that conducts electricity, say an electrical wire, 
you have a circuit where, essentially, electrons get passed from 
atom to atom along this pathway. And, yet, they don't run out, and 
they don't really get used, it is only the resistance that causes heat 
that causes the incandescence... 
A: Gravity center of planet is also "window" to all other density levels 
and dimensional planes of existence, which is why electrically 
charged atoms "ground" in order to pass on to other planes through 
gravity binder. 
Q: Getting back to my question of the passing of electrons along a 
circuit: what force is it that initiates the passing of one electron to 
another atom that manifests as electricity? 
A: Electrical energy is merely "tapped," collected, trapped, then 
channeled. 
Q: If it is tapped, where is it tapped from? 
A: Collecting electrons. 
Q: What is a collecting electron? 
A: Not "a" collecting electron. It is collecting them. 
Q: What is collecting the electrons? 
A: The utilizers. Electrons are "free" energy. 
Q: Okay, but where... I am thinking that in an electrical circuit, the 
electrons that are there, are the ones that are started with, the ones 
that are passed along, and the ones that are still there when the 
circuit is broken and the passing of electrons stops. Am I wrong? 
A: Yes. 
Q: Okay... then... 
A: There is no beginning or end. 
Q: Then electricity is, in essence, a flow of electrons? 
A: Yes. 
Q: You say they are tapped. Where are they tapped from? What is 
the source of these free electrons? 
A: All materials. All matter. All aether. 
Q: The electrons of the conductor itself are being passed along, and 
this is the manifestation of the flow of electricity? 
A: Maybe. 
Q: In what sense am I not correct? 
A: Limiting concept to "conductor." 
Q: Electrical energy will be present in everything. But in some 
particular substances, such as those things we call conductors; the 
electrical energy is, as you said, collected, trapped and channeled, 
which then is a useful activity because it creates light and runs 
machines and so forth... 
A: Primitive. 
Q: Okay. It is primitive. We understand that. When electricity moves 
in what would be considered a superconductor, how is it different 
from an ordinary conductor, such as a copper wire? 
A: Accelerates flow, thus separating electrons, thus "exciting" 
process. 
Q: What qualities does the superconductor have that contributes to 
this accelerating of flow? 
A: Cycling magnetic pulse. 
Q: What creates a cycling magnetic pulse? 
A: Matter within gravity vacuum. 
Q: How do you create a gravity vacuum? 
A: In this case, it is created unintentionally as a by product of 
superconductivity. 
Q: You said that a superconductor separates the electrons, thus 
exciting the flow. What do you mean by separating? 
A: From each other. 
Q: How is that different from a normal electric flow? 
A: Not as widely separated. 
Q: Is this separation of electrons a key to this process? 
A: Yes. 
Q: What additional conditions or qualities contribute to the 
separating of electrons? 
A: Ask yourself now, what conditions define a superconductor? 
Q: (L) What defines a superconductor? (A) Zero resistance. (V) Is 
that without gravity? (A) No heat. (L) How does one achieve zero 
resistance? 
A: Artificial construct. 
Q: Do you mean that it is an artificial idea, or that the only thing that 
would have zero resistance would be something that is artificially 
constructed. 
A: Both. 
Q: So, there is no actual possibility for a true superconductor with 
absolutely zero resistance? But that the resistance can be reduced 
to a very low level. 
A: Close. 
Q: Does cold necessarily have something to do with 
superconductivity? 
A: What conditions exist in outer space? 
Q: Well it is VERY cold... (A) It is almost a vacuum. (L) No gravity. 
(A) No, there is gravity, but only that. What I think we must ask is 
what is the relation between superconductivity and gravity? There 
was something mentioned... what was that about aether? 
A: Nonmaterial realm of existence. 
Q: (L) In other words, consciousness. Okay, you mentioned a 
cycling magnetic pulse that was an unintentional byproduct of 
superconductivity, and something about matter within a gravity 
vacuum... Could you define a cycling magnetic pulse? 
A: Self explanatory. 
Q: You said it was derived from matter within a gravity vacuum. 
Does that mean that superconductivity creates a gravity vacuum? 
A: Yes. 
Q: (A) Where? Within the superconductor or outside? 
A: Within. 
Q: (A) According to what we know, it also creates an 
electromagnetic vacuum. Is it correct that there is no magnetic field 
within the superconductor? 
A: We have stated before that these two properties are interwoven. 
Q: (L) Electromagnetism and gravity. So, if there is no gravity, there 
is no electromagnetism. But then where is the magnetic pulse? 
A: Pulse exists outside of gravity vacuum, but within 
superconductor. Picture a tube structure. 
Q: Is the superconducting state within the gravity vacuum or within 
the em pulse? 
A: All inclusive. Normal structure for channeling electron flow within 
a conductor is a solid "tube," within superconductor; it is a "hollow" 
tube structure, thus evidence of vacuum. 
Q: Does this hollow tube structure have any bearing on what you 
described as the separating of electrons? 
A: It is a manifestation of same. 
Q: So, in order to have a superconductor, one ought to have a 
temperature similar to the temperature in space, as well as possibly 
a chemical construction that is similar to the ambient properties of 
space, only greatly condensed, would that be it? 
A: Close. 
Q: (A) Do they mean there is zero gravity without superconductor? 
They say a vacuum which means what? No gravity? 
A: Within. 
Q: (A) No gravity within. 
A: Not "no," just far less, and fragmented in nature. 
Q: (A) But, on the other hand they say vacuum... (L) But Honey, 
there is no such thing as a perfect vacuum! (A) Yes. You are right. 
Okay. (A) I want to understand this 7th density. The protons come 
from 7th density? Or they are windows to 7th density or... what? (L) 
You said that protons come from seventh density. In exactly what 
sense did you mean that? 
A: In the ultimate sense. 
Q: So, a proton is a little manifestation of the consciousness of God? 
A: No. 
Q: Well, that would be what I would understand as the ultimate 
sense. Correct me please. 
A: Too complex. 
Q: (L) Okay. (F)Spider! (A) Indeed! A spider! [It seems that at this 
precise moment, a spider descended from the ceiling on a thread.] (L) 
Teensy weensy spider....(A) It's a spy! (F) Yes, but a second density 
one. (A) But it has a lot of protons! (F) That's its connection with 7th 
density. [The spider is rescued and put elsewhere.] (L) Now, back to 
the questions. Could you just give me a clue on this proton 
business? 
A: Ask. 
Q: Okay, a proton is matched by an electron... (V) Does 7th density 
delegate how many protons come down or are available at any 
given time? (L) I think that would be a question that would take us 
way beyond where we are now... 
A: Yes it would. 
Q: (L) Just calm down V. I have a spider web on my hand. Okay. 
The protons. (V) Aren't protons just smaller bits of energy. (L) A 
proton is a fermion. (A) Yes. 
A proton is a fermion. Okay, there is a question with this proton. Is it 
something eternal, or is it something that decays? If it is seventh 
density... How long does a proton live? 
A: Atomic explosion blends density window. 
Q: (A) What do they mean blend? It explodes! Blend with what? 
A: Where do protons fit into the atomic chain reaction equation? 
Q: (L) What happens to protons in an atomic chain reaction? (A) 
Okay. I will have to check. I will have to take a look. But what does it 
have to do with this? (L) 
Well, if a proton is from 7th density, it is obviously a window. (A) 
Yes, a window. A very small window. (V) I have to leave. (L) Okay, 
we will stop for now and come back to the atomic chain reaction 
after we know how to ask the questions. Let me ask very quickly 
what made me so violently sick last night? 
A: Ptomaine, bad gravy or sauce. 
Q: (L) The last few nights I have been having very strange things 
happening to me while I sleep. Waking startled or fighting or feeling 
something touching me... 
What is going on? 
A: Burial ground. 
Q: You mean the place we are staying used to be a burial ground? 
A: 400 years ago. 
Q: Swell! Just what I needed to hear! Is there anything I can do to 
limit this activity? 
A: No, 
Q: Is it particularly harmful or just annoying? 
A: More the latter. 
Q: (L) How come it bothers me and not Ark? 
A: Sensitivity profile. 
Q: Any general advice? (A) Let's ask if there is anything we should 
do before going to this Gulf Breeze? 
A: Get plenty of rest. 
Q: Get plenty of rest?! We know that. Is it advisable to go to this 
particular conference? 
A: Yes. 
Q: Anything else? 
A: Up to you. 
Q: Then we thank you and say good night. 
A: Good night.